Wednesday, October 31, 2007

Homecoming Princes and the Predictable Fundie Backlash

Over at the "Free Republic," they posted an article about two "Homecoming Princes" at Davis Senior High School in CA. Two 16 year-old boys were voted homecoming princes by their classmates, in lieu of a homecoming king and queen. Ever the predictable bunch, the fundies are yammering away at how unfair all of this is, and how the liberal gay agenda is on a "seek and destroy" mission on "traditional American morals." Or something. More to come on morality in a future article, by the way.

This is an important milestone for a couple different reasons. For one, it allows LGBTQ students to feel included in a system that has very traditionally excluded them.

For example, my high school homecoming night was probably spent smoking and getting drunk with my own friends, my teammates usually, while the rest of my friends spent weeks discussing their dresses and dates ad nauseum. To every last. boring. detail.

But seriously. Had homosexuality been more accepted at my high school, I may have had the balls to come out sooner. And maybe another girl at my high school would have, too. And maybe, instead of becoming addicted to cigarettes and binge drinking, I would have had a romantic relationship like the rest of my friends, and gone to the dances and done normal dating things that "everyone else" does.

After all, I'm not a total Monet.

I may have experienced a "first love," that wasn't hidden away from my family and friends and dealt with as something to be ashamed of. The distance may not have grown so far between my mother and me. My family, had they known at the time what I was going through, may have been more understanding. And I wouldn't have been too scared to tell them.

I'm not blaming the cigarettes and alcohol and other things solely on being gay, but there are definite reasons that a much higher percentage of lesbians smoke than straight women.

The fundies that are so anti-gay, and who seriously think that we are on a mission to destroy society have no idea. They must have no compassion. They sit in their safe, "religious," "moral," hetero or closet-homo worlds and judge anyone who isn't exactly like them. Again, more to come on morality in a future article that I've already started.

I'm so glad to see that these boys felt as though they could be openly gay at their school. And that their classmates voted for them. It's an enormous step forward for equality. Congrats, boys!

You got back at people like this in the best way possible (taken from the comments section

"Must they make a mockery of every single tradition that ever was? All this pandering and teaching is nothing less than negligence of the mentally ill.
4 posted on 10/28/2007 3:38:26 PM PDT by gidget7 "

"If only they knew, that for the vast majority of kids who voted for them, they are a joke and are being laughed at behind their backs.
7 posted on 10/28/2007 3:43:30 PM PDT by prov1813man"

"How do they know the couple is gay?
9 posted on 10/28/2007 3:48:16 PM PDT by Crawdad"

[my personal favorite]* "In the early to mid eighties we have a few effeminate boys coming to high school dressed as women. Transvestites. In high school.
In a rural, logging town.
It only took a couple ass-beatings out on the football field to put an end to that crap.
10 posted on 10/28/2007 3:50:51 PM PDT by Grunthor"

"Must they make a mockery of every single tradition that ever was?
Yes. The homosexual political agenda is obsessive and totalitarian, so they are compelled to destroy every tradition.
11 posted on 10/28/2007 3:50:54 PM PDT by puroresu"

">>And in a day and age when we have had gay governors, gay congressmen and gay senators, I imagine that the nation can survive a gay homecoming couple.<< href="">19 posted on 10/28/2007 3:58:56 PM PDT by ishabibble"

"So they have Homecoming Sissies instead. Isn’t that just so special!
26 posted on 10/28/2007 4:05:59 PM PDT by FormerLib"

"Must they make a mockery of every single tradition that ever was?
That is their goal. To destroy every aspect of Western Civilization.
And don't doubt for a second that some of the "educators" had a hand in this.
27 posted on 10/28/2007 4:06:31 PM PDT by B Knotts"

Hmmm....the average smoking white male lives to something like 70....the average homosexual male lives to something like 50....guess they likely won’t be around to party at their 30th class reunion. And, wonder how much THEIR health care will cost.....

"Furthermore, people are making the assumption that just because it is a gay couple that was elected that the two must be sexually active.That being the case, are we to assume that all straight couples that are elected homecoming king and queen are also sexually active?
Apples and oranges.
Straight couples are, on the face of it, exhibiting normal, healthy relationships, and until fairly recently teenagers were at least expected to conform to societal restraints.
Homosexual couples, on the other hand, are exhibiting abnormal, unhealthy, deviant, disturbed behavior, and, since their very relationship is in defiance of societal taboo, societal restraints are less than even a minor inconvenience to them. Perverted sexual congress is implicit in their declaration of poofterhood.
44 posted on 10/28/2007 4:24:24 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler"

*a-wha? excuse me...before continuing, can someone please explain to me the meaning of "poofterhood?" dang. these fundies make up some really whack terms. but that one takes the cake. it is worse than the terms the opine idiots over at "that one blog" come up with.

"You may be right. My point was in response to someone who had taken the debate off onto a tangent regarding what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. I was merely noting that we have no idea whether or not these perverts are actually engaging in homo sex (though I’d bet they are) and in any event it’s irrelevant to the issue at hand. And that issue is that the tradition of crowning a homecoming king & queen shouldn’t be given the Marxist Deconstruction treatment by allowing two sissy boys to boot out the normal couple.
Read all my posts on this thread and you’ll see that I’m on your side! :-)
93 posted on 10/29/2007 6:47:37 AM PDT by puroresu"


"Someone a few years ago said that as homosexuality spreads, women lose respect within society. I forgot who it was who said that, but they made some good points.
94 posted on 10/29/2007 6:59:08 AM PDT by puroresu"

(i would LOVE to see how this is applicable to the real world and who it was that actually said this)

It’s just plain disgusting. It’s only a matter of time until drag queens start demanding to enter beauty pageants. There’s really no logical reason for things like this. They’re only being done to mock societal norms and to destroy something traditional, to eradicate the past so as to pave the way to the Orwellian future.
98 posted on 10/29/2007 8:35:16 AM PDT by puroresu"

(oh, apparently several of those asinine comments are made by the same person, "puroresu")

"When a boy at Brockton High School was allowed to use the girls room dressed as a girl, I opined if it would be okay for a student to attend school in Black Face and demand to use the “Colored Only” rest room because he had Ethnic Identity Disorder. Would the Black Students be forced to accept that?
100 posted on 10/29/2007 8:55:23 AM PDT by massgopguy"


John said...

As usual, your post makes me think.

I am a veteran of another culture war, that being the late 60s-early 70s.

The Freepers comments sound an awful lot like the protestations of my care-givers during that era.

There was never any serious attempt on their part to understand why the "times they are a-changing". Only that we, our generation, were bent on destroying everything that was good and decent in the world.

Fannie said...

My personal fave:

"Someone a few years ago said that as homosexuality spreads, women lose respect within society. I forgot who it was who said that, but they made some good points.
94 posted on 10/29/2007 6:59:08 AM PDT by puroresu"

Someone once said that, somewhere, or something. I don't really know. But someone really did say something like that. Or something.

Jane Know said...

john, i'm not sure what a Freeper is. i suppose i could google it, but do you know?

i suppose there is always resistance to change from traditionalists, even when change isn't harmful.

among my favorite other comments that i didn't post were "this is a violation of equal opportunity, for the poor girls who dreamed of being homecoming queen who didn't get that chance!"


yes, that was another favorite, too.

someone once said something but i don't remember who it was, but in any case, it supports my position, so it must be true.

John said...

A Freeper is a person who posts at

Jane Know said...

ohhhh. i didn't know that's what they called themselves. oops. i viewed some of their profiles, and i absolutely LOVE the ones who have the confederate flag as their symbol. awesome.

John said...

I used to post on the FreeRepublic, trying to be a voice of reason. Once you get into their heads, it's easy to make their heads explode. They are not the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

One thing I know about them. Those who talk God are utterly sincere in the beliefs.

I argued with them about all kinds of matters and the discussion stayed on the site.

But when I made comments that could be construed as critical of God, a whole bunch of them e-mailed me personally and begged me to please not mock God as my very life was at stake.

Fannie said...

I've been tempted to comment/post there before, but ultimately I believe that it would be as fruitless and frustrating as most other internet debates are.

John said...

Jane, I would like you opinion on something. May I write to you.

If you agree, but don't want to publish your e-mail address, would you email me at: ?