tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post6877964434366569201..comments2024-01-28T07:25:50.197-06:00Comments on Fallacy Findings: An Unnatural Fear of Teenagers?Jane Knowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13737513919725679578noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-54276683337560112452007-11-13T11:30:00.000-06:002007-11-13T11:30:00.000-06:00Thank you, John Hosty. :-)Thank you, John Hosty. :-)Jane Knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13737513919725679578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-22884620570223278202007-11-13T09:49:00.001-06:002007-11-13T09:49:00.001-06:00Great job by the way.Great job by the way.John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-66226786376562981572007-11-13T09:49:00.000-06:002007-11-13T09:49:00.000-06:00Whatever motivates you Jane, keep up the good work...Whatever motivates you Jane, keep up the good work. Lies need to be called out with logic for all to see, and eventually they will not be able to fool enough people to remain effective.John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-41793479855505722652007-11-12T10:25:00.000-06:002007-11-12T10:25:00.000-06:00Haha! I don' know if it's patience or stubbornnes...Haha! I don' know if it's patience or stubbornness, actually. ;-) Sometimes the two are one in the same.Jane Knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13737513919725679578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-9172356243667644922007-11-12T06:51:00.000-06:002007-11-12T06:51:00.000-06:00I hear you Dan. Jane is a truly remarkable person...I hear you Dan. Jane is a truly remarkable person with far more patience than me.<BR/><BR/>As a parent who has found raising children to be rather easy, I sit in utter disbelief at how difficult these people make it all sound.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277613176895587358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-3809881820462925272007-11-12T06:43:00.000-06:002007-11-12T06:43:00.000-06:00Jane,Where do you get the patience to even dissect...Jane,<BR/><BR/>Where do you get the patience to even dissect opine's horseshit? <BR/><BR/>I try. I really try to come up with the energy to go through it line by line - but in the end, I just come back to "these people are fucking insane"Dan Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02613852767697217763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-79097394951741380072007-11-11T16:41:00.000-06:002007-11-11T16:41:00.000-06:00m, you're welcome! I hope you get time to post mo...m, you're welcome! I hope you get time to post more articles, but I realize that life can definitely get in the way of blogging. thanks for visiting. :-)Jane Knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13737513919725679578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-72862535009815237532007-11-11T14:14:00.000-06:002007-11-11T14:14:00.000-06:00Just wanted to say thanks for your comment! I'm s...Just wanted to say thanks for your comment! I'm surprised anyone reads anything on there with how little I update lately. Oh life, how you get in the way.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06174407315407721225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-70852684886305470422007-11-11T11:21:00.000-06:002007-11-11T11:21:00.000-06:00It's amazing to me that they let Renee (and Jose) ...It's amazing to me that they let Renee (and Jose) even post on their site. It makes their site more of a mockery than it otherwise would be.<BR/><BR/>But, they probably think it helps their cause to have at least one woman on "their side."Fannie Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04296502470605119779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-78505950616613489772007-11-11T06:51:00.000-06:002007-11-11T06:51:00.000-06:00Renee's weirdness leads to a dilemma for them.Ulti...Renee's weirdness leads to a dilemma for them.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately, the first point of Opine is the slander LGBTI people.<BR/><BR/>A secondary motive is to blame gay people for a "decline in morality" that in turn ruins families.<BR/><BR/>The connection is impossible to make.<BR/><BR/>If one takes Renee's paranoia seriously, then one has to admit that it is straight people who have screwed up their precious traditions. And we can't have that, can we?Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277613176895587358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-48692238130005177482007-11-10T21:22:00.000-06:002007-11-10T21:22:00.000-06:00Notice how none of the Opiners have come over here...Notice how none of the Opiners have come over here to defend Renee. I think even they are embarrassed by her weird articles and irrelevant comments.Jane Knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13737513919725679578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-77338227660233328512007-11-10T12:42:00.000-06:002007-11-10T12:42:00.000-06:00I don't think it's a bad thing that kids are growi...I don't think it's a bad thing that kids are growing up later, either, John.<BR/><BR/>In my parents' generation, it was normal for kids to leave their parents' home following graduation from high school, and the job market allowed for people (especially men) to obtain decent-paying jobs with only a high school diploma.<BR/><BR/>That has greatly changed in the past 20 years, and it would be ridiculous to expect an 18 year-old to move out of the house and be able to support himself right away. Not now that everyone is expected to have at least a bachelor's degree. <BR/><BR/>Kids these days are seen by people like Renee as "lazy" or "wimpy" when they are just trying to do their best with what society tells them they are "supposed" to do. But I don't think further education is a bad thing, even if it means kids are self-sufficient at a later age.Jane Knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13737513919725679578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-90815919326967474462007-11-10T08:34:00.000-06:002007-11-10T08:34:00.000-06:00"They don't see life as a burden, but maybe that's..."They don't see life as a burden, but maybe that's because they live their lives with joy as part of the journey instead of an imaginary destination somewhere after retirement. "<BR/><BR/><BR/>That's a great point. Sometimes I wonder if so-called marriage defenders have joy in their lives or if they are primarily concerned with the Very Important Task of Marriage and Procreation.Fannie Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04296502470605119779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-64295955032412873952007-11-10T08:24:00.000-06:002007-11-10T08:24:00.000-06:00Jane, I think you said it best when you said:"As a...Jane, I think you said it best when you said:<BR/><BR/>"As any innovator will tell you, success hinges less on getting everything right than on how you handle getting things wrong."<BR/><BR/>This is so very true about life. So often we take a blessing and turn it into a curse because of how we look at things. In my opinion Renee is someone who might do just that, hence her negativity. <BR/><BR/>I have locked horns with her over on another website where she told me in effect that I had no respect for women because I am gay. The way in which she chose her words made it sound to me like she has little joy in her own life, therefore she sees this emotion as a foolish waste of time in her business only life. <BR/><BR/>I'm with John. The kids are going to be fine because they recognize the mistakes we have made and can avoid them. They don't see life as a burden, but maybe that's because they live their lives with joy as part of the journey instead of an imaginary destination somewhere after retirement. Good for them!<BR/><BR/>The commentary of a Self-neutered lawyer turned housewife like Renee should be considered only as seriously as the source validates. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the great post Jane!John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-82429959165601455352007-11-09T17:58:00.000-06:002007-11-09T17:58:00.000-06:00Truly outstanding post, Jane.I think it's importan...Truly outstanding post, Jane.<BR/><BR/>I think it's important to note that marriage for love is a very recent development. Stephanie Coontz, scholar extraordinaire, has written several very well researched books on the mythology of "family values", and the "Way We Never Were". I highly recommend her work.<BR/><BR/>Since marriage has always been in flux, it is natural that our dating, courtship and marriage patterns will change over time, each generation adapting to changing times and changing conditions.<BR/><BR/>And Jane, you really hit the nail on the head (and Fannie accurately points out that falling in love in high school and marrying immediately can be a huge mistake) when you note that the teen years are the time to get know potential mates without the sense that some kind of permanency is required.<BR/><BR/>Kids don't grow up as fast as they used to, but that is not a bad thing. People are marrying later, because this is what works in the reality of what is modern America.<BR/><BR/>There are a lot of things worth worrying about today, but the quality of our teenagers is not one of them.<BR/><BR/>I firmly believe the next few decades will be the best ever, largely because of the beautiful, decent, fair-minded young people who are taking charge.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277613176895587358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556721977124180569.post-19942806246972812822007-11-09T16:12:00.000-06:002007-11-09T16:12:00.000-06:00"Sometimes adults make mistakes and marry the wron..."Sometimes adults make mistakes and marry the wrong person."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, like when they "fall in love" in high school and get married as soon as they graduate.Fannie Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04296502470605119779noreply@blogger.com